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We need enemies to shoot at, lest it would be a rather boring game and so we need some people who are evil with no complicated morals behind them and so we have the Raiders, or Fiends on FNV. [–]lodewijkbob 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). People are driven to join the Legion as much as they are drawn to it. [–]Mantisootheca 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (6 children). Still though human slavery doesn't make economic or industrial sense in a world with robotic workers and plenty of technology to salvage and re-engineered. The Royal British Legion won't be selling Remembrance Day poppies in "certain areas" this year because they offend some minorities. I'm shocked to hear anyone could say anything good about them. Like starting with the worst parts of a corrupt government and then trying to build a friendly facade around it, as opposed to starting off with a good mission that inevitably becomes more and more corrupt as power accumulates. People easily forgot shitty things in Obsidian/Interplay games. If you can't see that the grievances of the Polish (Stormcloak) rebellion have more gravity, then you are just a mindless SJW. Focused on sniping, survival and repair, has affinity with boone and a soft spot for the NCR's mission (and their ranger armour). there is no point where any of these factions have something that we can point to and say "this is an indefensible flaw, an error that cannot be rationalized or fixed". A mostly peaceful, if somewhat selfish leader. There is no logic and reason to have them use women as sex slaves. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (15 children). It's not bad obviously, some black and white storytelling is welcome occasionally, but the Legion are irredeemably evil. [–]MarxistSociologist -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (1 child). He's not like the other final bosses. I love new vegas, and when you read the fallout bible you get a glimpse of what could have been with the legion, but they didnt develop them enough and what you see instead is a faction thats evil for stupid, shitty reasons that dont make much sense. Dale Barton claims that he feels far more safe trading in Legion territory than he does in NCR territory. They are not evil because they made a choice to be evil for it's own sake, they are evil becaue they decided that was an acceptable price to pay to accomplish goals that are admirable. That, and AngryArmour's comment is why I love the Legion as a faction so much. 1.) Ah, but to the Legion, the religion serves the ideology (with Caesar commenting a cult of personality is necessary to keep him as absolute ruler), whereas with ISIS the ideology serves the religion (with experts and insiders saying their leaders' goals and strategies are heavily reliant on prophesies within the Quran). That's like asking "Why do people like to eat crab?" This is almost never the case anywhere else. And if he turns countless people's lives into a living hell to achieve that, he thinks they're worth sacrificing to his ego. A tricky thing about safety and security in games is that as the all powerful protagonist, you will be safe and secure no matter what. Perception- 9 The Legion must know when someone or something is nearby to defend themself and attack the creature or person. "Patrolling the Mojave...", you know the drill. However, the comment is saying, "people like the legion because they're well written" and therefore like the legion not for their moral standards, but their character depth and solid writing. Wouldn't it be more similar to say, Russia invades the EU and beats them into submission. Graham has no interest in revenge and no longer cares about Ceasar. A new documentary detailing allegations of sexual abuse has the pop star’s most activist supporters ready to jump on Twitter and YouTube to defend his name. The Mojave residents and ncr aren't seen as civilized to the legion, [–]MarxistSociologist 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children). The consensus came to the corruption existing but not being nation breaking. In time successors will take over the mantle. The legions lack of use of actual technology would be its undoing. Solicitors in Ilford, Essex. At least Autumn thought he was doing right by the people of the Capital Wasteland. Very well put, much better than I could ever hope for. There is one problem with the Legion though. As Raul says, "I've been to Arizona, boss. Now Mussolini! ", you just do it. [–]Blck0utDefault -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children). "Justice" is swift and cruel. The reason they probably don't is due to the location of the Legion in the mountains, where using vehicles is pointless, and the lack of knowledge on how to operate said equipment; as most of Caesar's Legion, used to be Tribal Savages who didn't even understand how to use guns. Context and explanation =/= question. Or could, even if they wanted to. [–]ThatVeteranRangerNCR VETERAN RANGER 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]HK-47b 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). Or maybe the Courier is groomed as a heir. There's a trophy for killing him with a knife. The trophy was added by GRA I think, I'd already killed him with a gun by then. Complaining about the Stormcloaks being evil is as ridiculous and asinine as it would be to complain that the Stormcloaks eat meat as opposed to being vegetarian. [–]prettypinkdorkKings 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). However you meet a trader in the camp who gives a brief insight that Caesarian civilian populace has a strict, but fair life. What doesn't make sense? it makes me wonder if they also think Hitler is "cartoonishly evil". Those shitheads? Whether it becomes the same slave territory, just advanced, or a newer version, would depend on variables I am not up to calculating. I'm actually pleasantly surprised reading through this thread that it's a generally well-accepted idea that they are basically dicks as well. From the looks of their settlement, there was probably more that they intended to do with the Khans and then it was nixed or they never got around to it. Because the alternative is the NCR which is basically set up to embody the worst of an inefficient bureaucracy, I suppose. Their are plenty of cases where Legion soldiers can be found with quite advanced tech on them. As others have noted, it is the correct classical pronunciation—or as close as could reasonably be expected. [–]SabyZNCR 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children), killing and enslaving a large amount of the population. What the hell was wrong with the Frank Horrigan encounter? It's cruel, but very logical. And certainly not in New Vegas either. [–]AutoModerator[M] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children). By the way, I really suggest you proofread your comments in the future. Its only a matter of time when players will know not to pre-order from Ubi. Las Vegas' economy has been hit hard. [–]OverseerConeyFollowers 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children), To elaborate, then... they're well-written villains, which includes describing how they manage to manipulate people into joining them, and how they manage to score some victories through their ruthless methods. We see one thats a healer...and others that are draggung rocks up and down the hill the camp is on. [–]Omny87Average-Sized-Dick Johnson 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children). level 2. If you seriously think it is better to support the Empire just because the Stormcloaks are racist, then you have a deficiency in your ability to put things into perspective. The Platinum Chip is a quest item in Fallout: New Vegas. I can understand why they do what they do to say great khans, but random civilian who is just a brahmin rancher gets the same deal. The Germans make the Polish language illegal and force the Poles to speak German. You need to read more carefully mate. A question regarding Fallout 4 and its settlement shops. They've tried having some characters say that the land occupied by the legion is save for trading and free from raiders but i figure that's because the legion would crucify your ass whereas the NCR would toss you in prison, were you wouldn't be starving at least. I always hear people talk about how the legion is such a "morally gray" faction and it's all about how "the ends justify the means", but I just don't see it that way. He only cares about killing. Elimination of all subgroups and ethnicities until there is only one: Legion. If Benny escaped from The Tops at the conclusion of Ring-a-Ding-Ding! having the younger and lesser equipped troops in the frontlines was apart of roman strategies, the first wave was the newest and lowest ranked soldiers would attack as skirmisher attacking with javelins moving in and out to try to disrupt the enemies formations, now unlike the legion this first wave was not only allowed to retreat but expected to once the second wave of troops was ready to advance. In all frankness, Legion support is all too often naive people who are easily suckered by smart-sounding speeches over good political substance. Seems PC players is having the worst time. Though he does terrible, unforgivable things, he doesn't see himself as "evil": everything he does is for a good reason in his eyes. After you’ve dealt with it, Veteran Rangers start spawning in marked NCR locations. It's the same expansionist evil you'd find in a cartoon. It's like Frank Horrigan encounter. Oh and did I mention how if you're a woman you're automatically fucked? Boones wife, for one. What I attempted to do in this poll is get a better feel for why those people that do not or cannot support the Legion feel that way. But in recently-subjugated lands, you wouldn't know it. (and by our 21st century sensibilities quite a big fault) People are stripped of old allegiances, kids are brought up uniformly away from families. Realize that while the death of Caesar loosens the grasp on the Mojave, the surrounding states are still Legion territory. [–]HughesJohnEnclave 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children), Not me, honestly. Raiders aren't attacking day glow and Redding. While you can certainly empathize with the Polish in wanting to reclaim their land, you know that this rebellion could only lead to the genocide of the Polish people. [–]HughesJohnEnclave 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). What he says make sense in a world where only the strong can survive. and slowly turn the wasteland into your own kingdom by acquisition instead of Legion-like conquest and NCR forced assimilation. You are trying to destroy the oil rig, so he tries to stop you. Sex slaves also make a bit of sense, from a certain point of view. So one could brush off all the evil things the legion does as mere collateral damage because they rid their land of more raiders. Its absolutely ridiculous. I like that idea, it would make the late game feel less trivial. 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child). [–]HughesJohnEnclave 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child). Civilized women under Legion wouldn't be treated as slaves. Totally!" [–][deleted] 41 points42 points43 points 3 years ago (3 children). I came there, saw Benny, fast travelled back out, got Boone, and we massacred the Legion, I let Boone take the final shot on Caesar. think "sexist and crucifixion obsessed slavers" is all there is to them. [–]VistaerWelcome Home 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). [–]Diddu_Sumfin 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). I was sad to see so little done with the Khans, though. I once killed Caeser with a .22 pistol. If anyone wants me to expand on the other factions I'd be glad to, but as it stands i'll be focusing on Caesar's Legion as it's the post's focus. Posts promoting or facilitating piracy in any way will be removed. I feel like if they'd made an expansion in Arizona so that you could see life inside their borders - no raiders, more safety, but stringent society, it'd have been better. The Legion is, at its heart, a society of the strong, collected from past societies for the purpose of diversity and growth. Vault-Tec Multiplayer Mod - \"VaultMP\" - is a multi-player mod for the PC versions of Bethesda\'s award-winning role-playing games Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Hence Hitler, but in fiction form, wouldn't be cartoonishly evil. Catch is if you're not a civilian - then you're military or slave. From vaultmp.com and the brickster.net group. Oh yeah that sounds right. So people like to find the grey in the legion cause, even if they have to reach very far to get it. Keep it civil and do not make personal attacks to other users. technically we are speaking soley about Tribal women here. Do you think Walmart would rather pay its workers or have them work for free? Those unable to fill these expectations die, but it's more resources for those that can survive. [–]huntimir151 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). Apparently Caesar has a line of succession, according to Boone, but if Lanius takes over, the legion is doomed. The only reason the Legion is dominate force in New Vegas is because its literally the outskirts of the NCR's empire. [–]MxPlumeOverBitch Wannabe 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (5 children). Do I have to play the previous games of fallout before playing fallout 4? In Fallout you fight multiple raiders at a time, all the time. (This is partly a wish for the great khans... but they were so weak), [–]AltusIsXDLONG LIVE THE BEAR 252 points253 points254 points 3 years ago* (8 children). Very much. The only half good one I've heard is "oh muh antithisis" and most common one is "But it's a wasteland". Veteran NCR Rangers start appearing after you dealt with Mr. House’s bunker at The Fort, Caesar’s Legion’s home plate. Do not spam. - posted in New Vegas Spoilers: Hi folks. I love the Legion as far as lore and design, and I found them really interesting to explore and learn about in-game, but I definitely see them as being the obvious "in your face" bad guys and the NCR as being the insidious "pretending to be good guys" bad guys. If they overwork them and the slaves die, so be it. Staunchly religious people's minds are dominated by emotion over analytic thinking, a study has suggested They'rE almostly comically evil and the narrative makes no attempt to redeem anything they do. [–]Cotrop 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child). So slaves are necessary to work any farms that the Legion comes across, and since farms tend to be decentralized, a private system of slavery where individuals can purchase slaves for work makes economic sense. In the Fallout world, that might just work. Now those leaders are acting like they will invade Saudi Arabia because it's not a country religious enough. Slavery is extremely logical. There are several reasons for them to use women as sex slaves. The worst of them, however, is Caesar’s Legion. [–]AngryArmourAuld Lang Syne 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). Confusing the two is literally what they teach you NOT to do in English classes. Unless you're a woman. Welcome to reddit! What happened is that Obsidian couldn't show the good parts of the Legion. Fallout: New Vegas; Why do some people pronounce "caesar" as "kaizar" User Info: _Ryan4454_ _Ryan4454_ 10 years ago #1. 1 Full dialogue table. It's been quite a while since I've last played New Vegas. He has no interest in talking to the chosen one, so he doesn't beyond his introduction. The thing that stands out is the fact that, out of the factions warring over the New Vegas Strip, none of them are really that awesome. [+]Vault121 comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 3 years ago (13 children). They are basically ISIS of the wasteland. It's why he staked it all there. Endurance- 9 The Legion doesn't believe in stimpaks,and chems being useful, that it is an insult to Mars. Yeah, I didn't kill Benny at the tops, and he ran to The Fort. Seems like 24 other people agree with me. "B-but roads are safe!" That's why 'helping' the White Legs is a very bad idea for Legion supporters and also why the White legs are never assimilated into the legion. If a raider gang shows up you'll just blast them away in any case. Yes and No. There are good reasons for them to 'underequip' their troops. [–]kecaw 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children). But we're talking about a world torched by nuclear war and where two centuries later anarchy still reins in many, if not most, parts of that world. [–]Omny87Average-Sized-Dick Johnson 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children). Before you meet him, you expect him to be some stone-faced tyrant who barks orders of genocide from a throne of skulls, but instead he's a stoic, pragmatic, and sharp-witted man who speaks with a charming, almost fatherly tone. Same reason why he won't send his legionaries into House's vault. I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Likewise Legion lands are egalitarian to a fault. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children), I end the legion on every new vegas play through, [–]Langager90Bullseye 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). By sending a lot of men out with knives and light uniforms, they make sure that the few who come back have that combination of bravery, smarts, loyalty and initiative - that they are the best warriors, most suited to father the next generation of recruits by the sex slaves mentioned earlier. [–]recycled_ideas 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). I have finished this game in every possible way except legion. A fallout game with certain enemies so tough you cannot kill them before they kill you, like SWATs or something, to police would create a much more interesting atmosphere. The Nords are ruled over against their will by a foreign empire; 2.) Elder Maxson was a bigot, but if you dig deep into his motivations it's really to eliminate ferals and super mutants as well as a dangerously dogmatic obsession with hoarding tech but for the twisted purposes of "protecting" people. In an attempt to stop this and allow the city remain under his control, he had Victor hire a courier to retrieve his platinum chip, a data storage device capable of upgrading the city's defense systems and activating a massive army of securitrons. Also, due to Caesar's Legion seeing no qualms with using a howitzer, it is safe to say that they would have no qualms with using Vehicles, and power armor of their own that would be found in the numerous military bases of Arizona and New Mexico. He is basically what people see as someone who had the ability to gain power and control that fast in the wasteland, yet uses the methods he does to attain it. (Historical Propriety. To me they are not even morally grey sure they keep their roads safe but the fact that completely devastating a town is okay to them is atrocious ( yes the town was corrupt but did everyone need to suffer I doubt everyone was bad). I almost always do the independent New Vegas playthrough, which I think is the best because my Courier was tough but fair. Fallout: New Vegas the fourth major installment of amazing role-playing shooting game series: Fallout which is available for Xbox 360, PlayStation and PC. Besides, everyone in Tamriel is racist and hates everyone else. Walmart would rather pay wages, and have their workers figure room and board out for themselves. I still believe the Nords can be independent, save their race and culture from the effects of diversification, cosmopolitanism and amalgamation and fight alongside the empire against the Thalmor. The production of new soldiers. [–]The_Tin_Can_Man 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (0 children), Yes. The reason some people defend Legion slavery is because they state industrial revolution during times such as that requires manual labor from slavery, but the Legion or Caesar went ahead and put a road block on said industrial revolution, which would mean they are in a loop with no discernible path to get out of slavery, kind of like real life. I went to Caeser's fort to try and join the Legion, but I just couldn't take it. As a U.S. Marine Corps combat veteran of the Post-9/11 wars, I was proud to join the American Legion. The Legion of Super-Heroes is a fictional superhero team appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics.Created by writer Otto Binder and artist Al Plastino, the Legion is a group of superpowered beings living in the 30th and 31st centuries of the DC Comics Universe, and first appears in Adventure Comics #247 (April 1958). How can people like them?". [–]JyuconceptsProud Brotherhood Scum 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (5 children), The question is "why do people defend the legion? Each fight will pit the Courier against progressively tougher opponents. Here you will find a Fiend named Violet with a pack of dogs led by Violetta. However, another influential organization was notably absent from the public defense: the NAACP. Free our people. [–]PGM_biggunRoams around, around, around 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). They enslave Tribals in hopes that they will eventually toughen up and become soldiers. Fallout: New Vegas has been scientifically proven to be the greatest game of all-time, and you can’t argue with science. The legion is even more expansionist than the NCR and they're much more violent about it. [–]SigournAsk me about New Vegas mods 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (9 children). [–]Bareyn 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child), I thought this was the World of Warcraft sub at first and I was very confused as to why people.would defend the Burning Legion (basically a big army of demons from another planet who want to expunge all life from the universe), [–]HughesJohnEnclave 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children), I was very confused as to why people.would defend the Burning Legion, basically a big army of demons from another planet who want to expunge all life from the universe, [–]SigournAsk me about New Vegas mods -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children). Over 230 upvotes on his and over 20 downvotes on yours. [–]AbeLincolnsFreckles 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children). It would be out of character for him to have any interactions besides the fight. By all means, tell me what I'm doing wrong. And in both the leaders probably see things into a political point of view. Again, you are still sticking with the present Legion and not the future Legion, which is why you still see them as "pure villains". I'm interested to see the type of cartoons you see. [–]krackbaby 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (8 children). Ostatnie wpisy na blogu. It wouldn't make sense for him to give a foreigner power so soon, but it'd be cool if you could genuinely join the Legion and earn his trust. As for the corruption there was a thread not long ago over just how prevalent it is. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "I've seen a lot of people trying to defend the Legion, so... A question. There is a logic to slaves though. 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